AMD has had quite the journey over the past several years since the initial release of their Ryzen processors in 2017.
From what we’ve seen, it seems that AMD will not stop breaking the barriers and will continue innovating, especially after Intel’s Alder Lake release. The only way for AMD to stay competitive against Intel’s big.LITTLE is with Ryzen 7000 Series.
Yes, AMD did skip from 5000 to 7000 because they decided Ryzen 6000 to be mobile processors only. A bit confusing, but we’re here to clear that up.
We have been able to collect numerous rumors, official details, and leaks into this article to deliver you information about the new Ryzen models.
Let’s see when these new CPUs will release and what we can expect from them.
- January 14, 2021: Initial publishing of article.
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AMD has not provided any specific release date, probably because it is still early, but Ryzen 7000 are expected in 2H of 2022.
At the end of July 2021, Lisa Su confirmed that both RDNA 3 and Zen 4 (Ryzen 7000) will be released in 2022. During CES 2022, AMD showed a quick glimpse of Ryzen 7000, Ryzen 6000 mobile, and the Ryzen 5800X3D which should release by July of 2022.
New leaks from Chinese forums suggest that the Ryzen 7000s could release earlier than originally thought. Specifically, in late July or early August. Another leaker supports this release date (as reported by BollyInside).
Also, there are some claims that AMD Zen 4 CPUs may release after July 2022 together with new Z670 and B650 motherboards. It is possible that these claims hint at the announcement date instead of the release date. We will have to wait and see.
Raphael-H, the Zen 4 based mobile CPU will probably release after the desktop Zen 4 series. So, either very late 2022 or early 2023.
Before CES 2022, the whole Ryzen naming scheme was very confusing, but things are a bit more cleared up now. The Zen 4 CPUs will be called Ryzen 7000, and they are the final answer to Intel’s Alder Lake.
But, fighting against Intel won’t be easy. AMD has a lot to worry about, considering Intel’s new hybrid technology, big.LITTLE which improves efficiency and brings an increase in performance. So, we have high expectations for these new generation of AMD processors.
We didn’t get a lot information about Ryzen 7000 during AMD’s keynote at CES 2022, except a few slideshows, but it’s still something you should be interested in.
The first big surprise was that AMD completely skipped the 6000 naming scheme and went straight for 7000. The 6000s are dedicated just for the mobile chips it seems.
We also got finally introduced to the new and unique type of heat spreader on the CPU. Even though we already had information and renders of it, it is still cool to see it showcased by Lisa Su.
Whether this new heat spreader is used to cut costs, improve thermals, or if the free space is needed for the chip, we do not know at this time. But, we’ll surely figure it out once people can get their hands on these processors.
That’s it from official information. The rest of the information we’ve found is based on leaks, rumors, etc.
A 16 and 8-core Ryzen 7000 CPUs showed up at the MilkyWay@Home database which should be the successors to the Ryzen 5950X and Ryzen 5800X.
The data found in this leak also shows the size of the L2 cache. It seems to be 1,024 KB per core which is double compared to Zen 3 processors. Doubling the L2 cache will surely translate to performance improvements.
Before Zen 4 releases, AMD wants to beat Intel’s i9-12900K and take back the fastest gaming CPU title. The Ryzen 5800X3D seems to be the solution to the problem. At least that’s what their charts show.
As we can see from this (probably cherry-picked) benchmark above, the 5800X3D is faster than Intel’s flagship i9.
They achieved this by 3D stacking L3 cache right over the chiplets. With this method, AMD achieved to add 96MB of L3 Cache which is considerably more even than the Ryzen 5950X (64MB L3 Cache).
This new technology is called 3D V-Cache, hence the 3D suffix on the Ryzen 5800X.
If this chip can really outperform the 12900K up to 20% in multiple titles, then it will definitely be the fastest gaming chip available until Ryzen 7000 processors release.
For further insight, here’s a chart of AMD’s comparison of the new 3D stacked chip against Ryzen 5900X.
Additionally, here’s a specification table for Ryzen 5800X3D.
|CPU||Cores||Threads||Base Clock||Boost Clock||L3 Cache||TDP|
|Ryzen 7 5800X3D||8||16||3.4 GHz||4.5 GHz||64MB 3D V-Cache + 32MB 2D Cache||105W|
Moving To The AM5 Platform
AMD processors on the 5nm process will be moving to a new platform and leaving AM4 behind. That is not a bad thing, considering that the last five generations of CPU stuck with AM4, so it is time to give it up and update to something faster, more efficient, and overall better.
Keep in mind; Ryzen 5800X3D is still on AM4.
Moving to AM5 is the best possible decision because it provides scope for many new technologies, most importantly DDR5 memory.
DDR5 is considerably faster than DDR4, rocking much higher frequencies. Furthermore, considering that this is just the beginning for DDR5, frequencies will probably go even higher as this new technology develops.
However, unlike Alder Lake, it is possible that Zen 4 will not be compatible with DDR4 RAM at all based on information from the leaker, Enthusiastic Citizen.
Is that a good move by AMD? The decision removes the option to combine a cheaper DDR4 RAM kit and motherboard with a Zen 4 CPU. DDR5 is fast and it is the future, but it has not yet matured, so we are unsure if we should say goodbye to DDR4 just yet.
PCIe 5.0 And LGA
Leaks suggest that AM5 will upgrade to LGA and 1718 pins. Not only will LGA 1718 have more pins for the CPU, but it will also have the pins on the socket itself instead of on the processors like current Ryzen SKUs.
As you can see in the image above, AM5 looks a lot more like Intel’s LGA sockets than AMD’s PGA AM4 motherboards. Objectively, this type of bracket does a much better job at keeping the CPU seated correctly in the socket, and the process of removing it from the socket is also much safer.
Can we expect similar pricing with Ryzen 5000? Considering that Intel will be very competitive throughout 2022, AMD will need to be very careful with these prices. This is why we believe Ryzen 7000 might be cheaper than the 5000 series.
Here are some estimates:
- Ryzen 5 7600X – $279
- Ryzen 7 7700X – $359
- Ryzen 7 7800X – $419
- Ryzen 9 7900X – $499
- Ryzen 9 7950X – $759
Keep in mind that, if they are better than expected, they might even be more expensive than the previous generation.
If you’re looking for performance numbers on the Zen 4, you are a bit early. At the time of writing, we don’t even have first-hand benchmarks for Zen 4.
There is one recent leak though of a 16-core and an 8-core Ryzen 7000 CPUs. The supposed successors to the 5950X and 5800X.
What we can say about the next generation of AMD CPUs is the potential increase in performance. Given that AMD will be switching to a 5nm node and moving away from the 7nm process used for Zen 3, an IPC improvement of about 10 to 15% is expected.
However, that is only the bare minimum because AMD probably has a lot more planned than a simple reduction in architecture size. We might be looking at higher clocks, faster memory, and more.
Take their new 3D V-Cache technology as an example. By 3D stacking cache, another 15% performance uplift is possible. Combine that with the IPC improvement and more which can make Zen 4 30% to 40% faster than Ryzen 5000.
This Chips and Cheese blog post uses the same logic based on the information from their sources.
Keep in mind that you should take all of this with a massive pinch of salt. None of the statements above have been confirmed by any official source. All of these performance numbers are currently only estimates, leaks, allegations, etc.