The graphics card market is currently not in its best state with record-high pricing. On the other hand, the CPU market might be in its healthiest state thanks to the very competitive approach from AMD and Intel.
All five Ryzen generations have offered great value for customers, and Intel’s 12th (Alder Lake) and 13th (Raptor Lake) Gen CPUs have also been highly competitive.
In 2022, choosing a CPU was more complicated than ever because both Ryzen 7000 and Raptor Lake offered great value and remarkable performance. However, Intel did have a slight price advantage because of the DDR4 support.
But what about AMD’s Ryzen 8000 Series or Zen 5? How will it fare against previous generations and Intel’s next-gen CPUs, Meteor Lake?
Well, we will try our best to give you the answer to these questions through various sources, leaks, and rumors.
Let’s get into it!
- April 20, 2023: Added several leaks regarding Zen 5
- March 28, 2023: Added Gigabyte’s confirmation of next-gen Ryzen CPUs coming at the end of 2023.
- March 17, 2023: Added more specification leaks regarding the core count.
- February 11, 2023: Added new leaks regarding Zen 5 core count, cache and more.
- January 12, 2023: Small update on the release date.
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Without more information from AMD, it’s almost impossible to know precisely when the new series of CPUs will drop.
But, based on AMD’s roadmap, the two-year gap between Ryzen 5000 and Ryzen 7000 Series, and the fact that AMD just released several new CPUs at CES 2023, it’s likely that the Ryzen 8000 Series will release in 2024.
However, Gigabyte’s recent press release shined a light on the release date of the next-gen Ryzen CPUs!
Even though these new products are entry-level servers, CPU support does not end here and the AM5 platform is supported until at least 2025. The next generation of AMD Ryzen desktop processors that will come out later this year will also be supported on this AM5 platform, so customers who purchase these servers today have the opportunity to upgrade to the Ryzen 7000 series successor.Gigabyte
In short, Gigabyte just announced that their AM5 motherboards will be ready for Ryzen 8000 processors that will release at the end of 2023.
But, even though it is coming from AMD’s partner, take this information with a bit of salt.
The only confirmed information right now regarding Zen 5 is that it will be on an “Advanced Node.” Our guess is that AMD will use TSMC’s 3nm process node.
The 5nm node brought substantial performance gains over Ryzen 5000’s 7nm node, so we expect great things from Zen 5.
However, recent rumors from both MLID and RedGamingTech suggest that Zen 5 is designed for TSMC’s 4nm and 3nm processes. This leaves room for AMD to choose whether the extra price of 3nm will be worth the added performance.
With Ryzen 7000, AMD announced the AM5 socket and claimed support until 2025. In other words, Ryzen 8000 CPUs will use the AM5 platform and will probably work with last-gen motherboards (A620, B650, and X670).
Furthermore, there are rumors that AMD’s future architecture may be similar to Intel’s big.LITTLE/hybrid CPUs, that is, split the CPU into performance and efficiency cores.
That will help AMD cram many more cores into a processor while keeping the power draw low.
According to AMD, this new microarchitecture will (naturally) bring better performance and efficiency. They’ll also implement AI and Machine Learning optimizations, which could mean further performance improvements in the future.
Ryzen 8000 CPUs will likely come with 3D V-Cache for even more gaming performance. Although, we are not sure whether AMD will add 3D stacked cache to all CPUs or a select few, as they did with Ryzen 7000.
AMD is working hard on Zen 5, but sharing too much information for this new CPUs this early probably isn’t a good idea.
However, leaks/rumors are always part of new PC hardware releases, so let’s have a look at some.
RedGamingTech has shared some interesting points regarding Zen 5, so let’s have a look.
Originally rumors mentioned that AMD would take an Intel-like approach with Zen 5 and add Performance + Efficiency cores, to add more cores in their CPUs. This would catch up to Intel’s strong multi-threaded performance.
However, RedGamingTech’s leak suggests that Zen 5 may not be that different from Zen 4, limited to 8 cores per CCX.
But, AMD hasn’t upgraded the core count for a few generations now, so more cores are expected from Ryzen 8000. So, a Ryzen with 16 cores per CCX is definitely possible, which opens up the possibility for a 32-core flagship.
In the same leak, there are mentions that Zen 5 may offer a 30% IPC gain (best case scenario) over Zen 4. Realistically, we should expect a 15% to 25% IPC uplift.
A much better IPC paired with higher boost clocks should provide some serious performance gains over previous-gen CPUs.
Big changes to L1, L2, and L3 cache are also expected and RedGamingTech expands on this a bit more:
Keep in mind that these are some pretty big claims, so take these with a huge grain of salt.
We’re still far from launch day to know the official pricing for the Ryzen 8000 Series, but we imagine that AMD will stay close to the prices of Ryzen 7000 processors.
Although we should note that the initial pricing of Ryzen 7000 CPUs wasn’t exactly satisfactory. Intel’s Raptor Lake processors sometimes offered better performance while costing less.
Here are our price estimates:
- Ryzen 5 8600X – $279
- Ryzen 7 8700X – $349
- Ryzen 9 8900X – $549
- Ryzen 9 8950X – $699
If AMD decides to launch regular and X3D variants, the CPUs with 3D V-Cache should cost more. Here’s what we think the price will look like:
- Ryzen 7 8800X3D – $509
- Ryzen 9 8900X3D – $649
- Ryzen 9 8950X3D – $799
For now, that is all we can share regarding AMD’s next-generation processors. But, as we find more information throughout 2023 and 2024, we’ll make sure to update this article accordingly!